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How strong is Brolly
Topic Started: Feb 18 2009, 07:36 PM (2,518 Views)
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We definitely need the background of the movie non canon or not because we need 2 figure out what level r those guys fighting Brolly in movie 8 2 figure out how strong overall Brolly is. The theory Psyam and I made solves or an example y the power scaling in that movie was so off. This we can c that neither Goku or Gohan was a MSSJ in that movie and Vegeta was definitely a USSJ and y Piccolo did better than Gohan. With that theory we can classify Brolly 2 b at least equal or weaker than Perfect Cell the 1 Super Vegeta fought.

About movie 10. If the fact that Brolly is at least <= 2 Perfect Cell then we can clearify Gohan was only an SSJ. This was proven in the manga were SSJ Gohan (fact) fought Dabura as he was also >= 2 Perfect Cell the 1 Goku fought as they no that Cell the most. As you guys can c Gohan fought Dabura 2 a stand still but Dabura was toying with him and in movie 8 Gohan fought Brolly who was out 2 kill him but Gohan still manage survive. There4 we can prty much guess Gohan was a SSJ when he was fighting LSSJ Brolly.

Perfect Cell > LSSJ Broly
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DbzNerd
Feb 18 2009, 09:15 PM
I'm quite knowledgeable myself :nerd: .

Movie 8,10 LSSJ Brolly is on per with Super Vegeta.
Movie 11 Bio Brolly is on per with Semi Perfect Cell.

This seem quite accurate.
lol no.

If Broly was the same power as Super Vegeta he wouldnt of been able to take out 4 super saiyans and piccolo!

I think Broly is Stronger than MSSJ but weaker than SSJ2.

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It starts the transformation with the electricity before he's SSJ2 and then after the transformation at 1:23 there's no aura, at 1:40 there is and at 1:44 on there isn't again. There's more like that, I'm just too lazy to look them up.


You don't need an aura to be SSJ2, have you seen the cell games?
Edited by Itagaki Manabu, Feb 21 2009, 12:22 AM.
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You should read the most resent post as I changed my mind about LSSJ Brolly. He is definitely equal to or a bit weaker than Perfect Cell with portion of his power.

If Super Vegeta can make Semi Perfect Cell look like a fool then yes he definitely can beat 4 SSJs and a Super Namek.

Brolly Definitely is weaker than a SSJ2 no question about that. His LSSJ form should of been a different version of an USSJ form created by Toei but without any speed issues.
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Ally to good. Nightmare to you.

Itagaki Manabu
Feb 21 2009, 12:21 AM
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It starts the transformation with the electricity before he's SSJ2 and then after the transformation at 1:23 there's no aura, at 1:40 there is and at 1:44 on there isn't again. There's more like that, I'm just too lazy to look them up.


You don't need an aura to be SSJ2, have you seen the cell games?
You obviously didn't read my full post because that's what I said. There was too many inconsistencies to make a conclusion. I'm with you. Go back and read my other posts on the subject before you try to belittle by statements. You basically said the same thing I said.
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Itagaki Manabu
Feb 21 2009, 12:21 AM
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Feb 18 2009, 09:15 PM
I'm quite knowledgeable myself :nerd: .

Movie 8,10 LSSJ Brolly is on per with Super Vegeta.
Movie 11 Bio Brolly is on per with Semi Perfect Cell.

This seem quite accurate.
lol no.

If Broly was the same power as Super Vegeta he wouldnt of been able to take out 4 super saiyans and piccolo!

I think Broly is Stronger than MSSJ but weaker than SSJ2.

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It starts the transformation with the electricity before he's SSJ2 and then after the transformation at 1:23 there's no aura, at 1:40 there is and at 1:44 on there isn't again. There's more like that, I'm just too lazy to look them up.


You don't need an aura to be SSJ2, have you seen the cell games?
I watch the cell games and SSJ2 has electric auroa. Also, I noticed that a ssj2 eyes are dull which in movie 10 Gohans eyes are. But usually when the transformation is made theres always the electric auroa. But im leaning towards that gohan mite be ssj2 because look at the difference in his hair from his first tranformation vs broly and when he transforms rite before the family kamehameha.
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Ally to good. Nightmare to you.

Exactly! And Broly has a distinct advantage over normal Saiyans. Not only does he get stronger after every battle, but he gets stronger IN battle. That's why I think in movie 10 he was pushed to a level stronger than that of SSJ2.

We've seen huge power leaps like that before. Like after Goku came home from Namek and we could interpret that Goku was stronger than Future Trunks who made minced meat out of Frieza. And remember Frieza was stronger than he was before he blew up and Goku had trouble with him back on Namek. Or better yet, when Goku couldn't beat Vegeta on Earth but when he went to Namek his power was far stronger than Vegeta's. Granted Goku has an unnatural ability to gain power faster than most but you'd think a LSSJ could pull it off if anyone.

That being said, I have an idea for what could happen after movie 10. In an alternate universe: after movie 10, while Broly is flying through space toward the sun, he made the same shield technique he used when planet Vegeta exploded. Since he's much stronger than he was as a child, he was able to protect himself inside the sun. Got out, went to another planet to rest. Regained his strength [and then some], and returned to Earth and destroyed everything including the Z fighters. At least until a SSJ2 Goku arrived from otherworld to save the day but was outclassed by the behemoth and powered up to the point where the dam broke and he became SSJ3 for the first time. Destroyed Broly and helped wish everyone who died back to life. [the affects of that wish could be that the Shadow Dragon that's born from that wish in GT would be immensely strong and ruin lives]
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Feb 21 2009, 06:44 PM
Exactly! And Broly has a distinct advantage over normal Saiyans. Not only does he get stronger after every battle, but he gets stronger IN battle. That's why I think in movie 10 he was pushed to a level stronger than that of SSJ2.

We've seen huge power leaps like that before. Like after Goku came home from Namek and we could interpret that Goku was stronger than Future Trunks who made minced meat out of Frieza. And remember Frieza was stronger than he was before he blew up and Goku had trouble with him back on Namek. Or better yet, when Goku couldn't beat Vegeta on Earth but when he went to Namek his power was far stronger than Vegeta's. Granted Goku has an unnatural ability to gain power faster than most but you'd think a LSSJ could pull it off if anyone.

That being said, I have an idea for what could happen after movie 10. In an alternate universe: after movie 10, while Broly is flying through space toward the sun, he made the same shield technique he used when planet Vegeta exploded. Since he's much stronger than he was as a child, he was able to protect himself inside the sun. Got out, went to another planet to rest. Regained his strength [and then some], and returned to Earth and destroyed everything including the Z fighters. At least until a SSJ2 Goku arrived from otherworld to save the day but was outclassed by the behemoth and powered up to the point where the dam broke and he became SSJ3 for the first time. Destroyed Broly and helped wish everyone who died back to life. [the affects of that wish could be that the Shadow Dragon that's born from that wish in GT would be immensely strong and ruin lives]
You just confused the hell outa me. Broly died in movie 10 and I'm sure you watched movie 11

And what I said about Moive 10 could just be a mistake they made. Look at when Gohan transformed during the martial arts tournement when Videl was loosing to Spopovich. There's another question was he SSJ or SSJ2?
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Movie 10 Gohan was defintely a MSSJ because he has proven himself against some1 at Perfect Cell lvl. Even though Dabura was toying with MSSJ Gohan he was still trying 2 his mission 2 damage Gohan so if Dabura can't even own MSSJ Gohan and he's equal 2 Perfect Cell then there is no way LSSJ Brolly was owning a SSJ2 in movie 10.

We should rlly not argue about Movie 10.
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Ally to good. Nightmare to you.

We're not. I was just stating the inconsistencies and possibilities. And I was saying in an ALTERNATE universe where Broly could've survived instead of dying in the sun.
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